So what is a babybat?

Babybat; noun.
1. The name given to any persons new to the Goth (sometimes other) subculture, prone to making simple mistakes, but understands some history.
2. A young member under the age of adult-hood in the Goth subculture.

There’s a lot of debate on what a baby-bat actually is, along with if the term is offensive. I’m more than sure that such a term can be used as an insult but to the majority I think it’s generally accepted as an endearing term.

Talia Felix said: “I always thought Babybats were like those 11/12 year olds who are trying
to be Goth, mostly by painting their faces like The Crow; but
apparently a lot of people seem to think you’re a Babybat right into
your 20s”

That’s where a completely separate argument comes in. What’s the difference between mallgoths and babybats? Mallgoth is typically an American term meaning (generally) a younger person dressed in trip pants (or other fully brand named items), with The Crow make-up and are generally less than friendly. They tend not to want to be involved in the subculture or know anything about it. While babybat’s are more knowledgeable about the subculture about more friendly.

Other Opinions:

  • The Everyday Goth recently (actually just a few minutes ago this popped into my subscriptions box) an article on the differences and transformation from Babybat to Goth here.
  • Domesticate brought up something that I hadn’t noticed directly before reading her opinion. She talks about peoples jumping straight from Babybat to Elder, but skipping being jsut a regular Goth here.

 Best wishes,



  1. May 13, 2012 / 5:42 pm

    I agree that babybats tend to be more friendly & enthused about the subculture, and mallgoths tend to have jerk-ish attitudes.

    Personally though, I find the term BabyBat deprecating & really do not like it. ^^

  2. HouseCat of Domesticated
    May 16, 2012 / 10:40 pm

    Thankyou for posting a link to my post 🙂

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